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principia's avatar

The American Jewish community is an outlier in terms of its low observance and generally secular values. The British Jewish community is ~25% Orthodox. That share rises to almost half of all young children.

Besides, I think the Haredi sects in Brooklyn will continue without much of a problem. Overtime, they will bleed converts to more secular streams like happened in previous centuries.

What you're describing isn't an "end to the people" so much as an end to a hyper-secular subgroup whose sole religion seem to be Zionism. The Bret Stephens types.

P.S. it would be interesting to know what the Mizrahi Jewish population in Israel thinks. Not only do they support the government in much greater numbers than the Ashkenazim, many of them are quite rooted now. The last major wave came well over half a century ago.

Moreover, their family history before the creation of Israel isn't in the West, which is an additional barrier. I suspect the appetite for emigration among them is significantly lower, even if these reforms were to pass eventually.

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When Donald Trump was elected, the leftist world was aghast. Paul Krugman swore the US economy would collapse. People marched in D.C. wearing hats supposedly resembling female genitals. Leftists swore we'd have WWIII. Instead what followed as an unprecedented period of financial success for minorities & women, reduced prison sentences for non-violent offenders, calm at the US/Mex border, a great trade deal benefitting Americans & Mexicans (Canada did meh), no wars, a short peace with North Korea and the Abraham Accords. For anyone wanting to bring up Covid, DJT had 40,000 ventilators made in a matter of months and more people died under from Covid under Biden. I'm not saying DJT didn't do stupid things, but clearly the country was in much better shape than the current admin. Somehow our armed forces were able to serve without calling for boycotts during presidencies of quite varied political views.

In leftist San Francisco, they've legalized street walking & open-air drug markets. In NYC the govt tacitly supports open-air fentanyl use. Leftist public school "teachers" take kids to drag shows, place age-inappropriate sexualized books in school libraries and give teenage girls breast binders (yes, this did happen).

The point is...this idea that it's SO horrible where I am and SO much better elsewhere...perhaps we can take a little chill pill and just see how this plays out? Nobody in Hollywood ever left. I think we're over-reacting just a smidge, eh? :) Most of the US & Israel are normies, nobody wants radical change, and if it occurs, the pendulum swings back, even in Saudi Arabia & Afghanistan.

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